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Today’s news. First is the latest on Saturn’s Mystery Hexagon.

There are video links in the page shown below,  for those who haven’t seen the hexagon yet.

Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

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Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby tholden » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:15 am

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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby starbiter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:57 am

This image shows counter rotating rings of ions and electrons, if it’s a diocotron instability, as i suspect.This would be similar to the events on Earth during recent catastrophes, while the air was choked with dust. This would be the sorting process.michael
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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby nick c » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:04 pm

Wal Thornhill in Feb. 2005:
Saturn’s Strange Hot Spot Explained

The hot spot’s behavior should be variable like that on Venus and correlated with the appearance of Saturn’s ring spokes, which are a visible manifestation of a heightened equatorial discharge in that part of Saturn’s Faraday motor circuit. The Electric Universe also predicts, experimentum crucis, that BOTH poles should be hot, not one hot and the other cold.
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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby tholden » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:34 pm

starbiter wrote:This image shows counter rotating rings of ions and electrons, if it’s a diocotron instability, as i suspect.This would be similar to the events on Earth during recent catastrophes, while the air was choked with dust. This would be the sorting process.michael

Any idea what would cause a hexagonal pattern like that?

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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby starbiter » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:49 am

tholden wrote:

starbiter wrote:This image shows counter rotating rings of ions and electrons, if it’s a diocotron instability, as i suspect.This would be similar to the events on Earth during recent catastrophes, while the air was choked with dust. This would be the sorting process.michael

Any idea what would cause a hexagonal pattern like that?

This may help.

http://www.plasma-universe.com/Diocotron_instability

https://www.google.com/#q=diocotron+instability

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Postby tholden » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:13 am

Thanks!!

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Postby Xuxalina Rihhia » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:13 pm

As a star, Saturn may be “dead” but it’s still a dynamic world even now. Sometimes it looks almost as if it were trying to come back to life as a star and failing if failing valiantly.
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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby justcurious » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:00 am

The hexagon (and other shapes) can also be reproduced in the lab with fluids rotating at different angular velocities. It resembles the diocotron instability where vortices make up the corners/angles of the hexagon. The vortices would be a result of the interaction of fluids of different velocities.http://news.sciencemag.org/2010/04/satu … reated-lab
Interestingy, they can produce different polygons (triangles, squares etc) by playing with the relative speeds of the fluids.
I’m not saying this is is a more likely cause than the diocotron instability (although they look very similar to me), but simply something worth sharing.
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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby jone dae » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:55 pm

Great selection of posts and links. When people are so asleep, that it is very difficult to interest them in learning about space, science, this world, EM, etc., the “mystery hexagon” is one that can get their attention. Also, I use links to the hexagon, that aren’t from this site or related sites; they’re unsure of us, or even suspicious, but they’ll still trust NASA, various academic institutions, and so on.
I often use this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzL194jiTyY }hexagon on Saturn. 1:47.
And this one next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOiV1RSfMnQ }the bizarre hexagon on Saturn, 1:13.
Then, when they’re at least paying attention for a second, I’ll post:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/11/28/saturns-northern-hot-spot/ }The hexagon at Saturn’s north pole is another example of electrical activity in the Solar System on a tremendous scale. Electricity moves along charged Birkeland current filaments that electrically connect the Sun with its family of planetary bodies. The current energy flows most strongly into the giant gas planets because their charge differential with the Sun is greater than that of their smaller, rocky cousins.
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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby Sparky » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:30 am

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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Postby jone dae » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:59 am

Hi Sparky,
That seems to be an experiment which has published results analogous to the Saturn hexagon, but doesn’t comprise proof of it. The video is still very useful, since it shows that hexagons can be formed in fluids resulting from flow differences, a result that is unexpected to the GP (general public), and which they would tend to disbelieve, at first, but I think could later accept. Also, as one other person already posted, other regular polygons have been formed by fluid rotations or other movements; so once the GP sees that, then they’ll find it easier to accept. Since this is America, many member of the GP have been to college, and aren’t really stupid, and can change their minds shown enough experiments along the lines of which we’ve posted here. Same with the electric universe generally; they have been put to sleep by the fairy tales most astronomers believe and repeat about the universe and how it works. I regularly hear the “Stardate” update on the radio, and there they deliberately present astronomy in a fairy-tale-like setting. That’s on one of the biggest news-talk radio stations in the Bay Area, KCBS. About 5 million people live there. That’s why I have, with Jae Kamel, published our categorized and annotated Lists of links to websites which each show the actions and effects of electromagnetism on our planet and all life on it, as well as NASA’s latest updates about, for example, how the plasma flows from the sun regularly “connect” with the earth. I wish they’d use a different word, though, since “connect” reminds me and probably them of the impossible “magnetic reconnection” which mainstream astronomy has been telling to people for years now. Impossible, since they always assert powerful magnetic fields w/o the presence of any electricity or electrical activity. But once any halfway-intelligent reader or viewer is shown enough examples of the ubiquitous actions of electricity and magnetism throughout out world and the universe, they will accept it, and eventually the will see why the famous Heraclitus said “The thunderbolt steers the Universe” some 2500 years ago or so.
BTW I once re-watched the geology video which you sent me, and finally did notice the part you’d mentioned, where there is a dog barking, which ruins the soundtrack there for a few minutes. I hadn’t heard it the first time, perhaps skipping through the video more quickly to see it in brief. Last Christmas I took some time to re-watch videos when I could take the time to view them completely. It is kind of funny; but I can also see how the dog’s barking would have annoyed you, since you made the video. There are other videos I’ve downloaded, not related to this forum or science, which were partially ruined by that sort of thing. In one video, which is hard to find and somewhat rare, which someone re-uploaded to you tube, there is a man coughing in the background. He must have been sick: he coughed repeatedly and for a long time, making about 10 minutes or more of the video useless, since you couldn’t hear what the lecturer was saying. A live recording, made evidently with a single mic. Sometimes, those things just happen.
Also, in the geology video, sometimes your statements, or those of others, are too fast; they skip too many steps, for the meaning to be understood by the GP. You men start talking about, for example, large current flows and such and how they account for the geological shapes and features which you are seeing, standing on and surrounded by, and so on, and even though I’m a scientist myself (but not a geologist), I had to stop the video a few times and think about what you all were saying, to make sense of it. Still a good video, real, live, and “miked” in the way available on outdoor, portable equipment, but the GP is spoiled, and would want the audio to be, say, in Dolby II Stereo, and so on. But it would be really useful to have the video redone, with explanatory sections added, between sections, between the various areas you stopped and recorded in, showing diagrams, animations, and such, with explanations added as text to the diagrams or animations, and so on. For myself, I had to do some homework, in order to remember what the normal current flow at the ground surface is on earth today, partly to see how the current flows you described were different, and by what magnitudes. So, I know that the GP needs all of that.
If everyone here on Thunderbolts acted like a team, which you were making such a geology video as described, others would be making videos, or links to existing videos, showing how planets exchange plasma flows, and how they equalize the charge differences between themselves when in (astronomically)”close contact” with each other. The GP still thinks that planets and other planet-sized bodies in the solar system, physically crash into each other, since they watch only movies, animations, and cartoons, but not science videos. They don’t yet know that such “contacts” are basically impossible in that sense, and that only much smaller bodies, such as asteroids and meteors, actually physically impact a planet, and that even those, usually burn up in the atmosphere, or are exploded by electrical energy, as the recent Russian meteors were.
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Re: Cassini images Saturn’s Hexagon

Unread postby Sparky » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:37 pm

:shock:

The GP still thinks that planets and other planet-sized bodies in the solar system, physically crash into each other, since they watch only movies, animations, and cartoons, but not science videos. They don’t yet know that such “contacts” are basically impossible in that sense,

:shock: Oh no, need to cancel and get a refund from my “Rogue Meteor” Insurance!! :oops:

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